The first topic is inflation, specifically, the CPI and how horrible the government has become at reporting accurate and up to date information on economic statistics.
The government continues to track inflation, for instance, by gathering price data much as it did in the nineteen-fifties: it surveys consumers by phone to see where they buy, surveys businesses to see how much they charge, checks out shopping malls to price goods. This leaves out consumers who have only cell phones, and it probably overstates inflation by not fully accounting for things like the impact of big-box stores. The larger problem, though, is the time it takes: the Consumer Price Index’s figures don’t come out until a month after the fact. In turbulent times, that’s too slow.
which was designed by the M.I.T. economists Alberto Cavallo and Roberto Rigobon, gathers price data not via survey but, rather, by continuously scouring the Web for prices of online goods around the world. (In the U.S., it collects more than half a million prices daily—five times the number that the government looks at.) Using this information, Cavallo and Rigobon have succeeded in building what amounts to the first real-time inflation index. The B.P.P. tells us what’s happening now, not what was happening a month ago. For instance, after Lehman Brothers went under, in September, 2008, the project’s data showed that businesses started cutting prices almost immediately, which suggested that demand had collapsed. The government’s numbers, by contrast, didn’t show this deflationary pressure until that November. This year, there’s been a mild uptick in annual inflation, and again the B.P.P. detected the new trend before the Consumer Price Index did. That kind of early heads-up could help governments make more timely decisions.
This second article is a short one, but lays out a good argument for an upcoming disconnect between oil and equities.
The ending of the second round of quantitative easing (QE2), that has pumped $600 billion (370 billion pounds) in financial markets since last year, will exacerbate the break, fund managers and analysts say, and could mean the asset classes start to move inversely.
"Once QE2 is out of the way, the wave of money that has flowed into commodities will recede and the high correlations between commodities and other asset groups will diminish," said Nicholas Denbow, fund manager at VOC Capital Management.
Share moves have tended to track the sharp swings in oil prices since the last global financial crisis, which saw assets perceived as risky first of all dive, and then recover sharply.
Morning, Thor! It's a good article, but I'm afraid there are inaccuracies here as well as the government's numbers. Probably somewhere in between is more accurate.
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http://www.bls.gov/cpi/cpifaq.htm#Question_1, what the CPI covers is:
Major groups and examples of categories in each are as follows:
* FOOD AND BEVERAGES (breakfast cereal, milk, coffee, chicken, wine, full service meals, snacks)
* HOUSING (rent of primary residence, owners' equivalent rent, fuel oil, bedroom furniture)
* APPAREL (men's shirts and sweaters, women's dresses, jewelry)
* TRANSPORTATION (new vehicles, airline fares, gasoline, motor vehicle insurance)
* MEDICAL CARE (prescription drugs and medical supplies, physicians' services, eyeglasses and eye care, hospital services)
* RECREATION (televisions, toys, pets and pet products, sports equipment, admissions);
* EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATION (college tuition, postage, telephone services, computer software and accessories);
* OTHER GOODS AND SERVICES (tobacco and smoking products, haircuts and other personal services, funeral expenses).
Looking further, I found the most money we spend per month is on housing, so that is (probably) weighted highest in the calculation. This is only theory on my part, because the BLS does not identify what the relative percentages are for each category.
Looking into how the BLS determines the cost of housing, they have some secret method of identifying which houses in what market areas qualify for inclusion. They can at will exclude some houses (perhaps distressed properties, for example) as being not representative. If they want a lower CPI, it would make sense to include all of downtown Detroit. If they want a higher CPI it would make sense to exclude all of California except for Palo Alto, or perhaps Hillsboro. Sigh.
From the same website, "BLS selected the urban areas from which data on prices were collected and chose the housing units within each area that were eligible for use in the shelter component of the CPI.".
So the CPI calculations from the government are bogus, and can say whatever they want. The online method of Roberto and Alberto's (even though they are MIT and it pains me to say this) is bogus. They need access to each town's recorded deed sale price and tax paid, and then they will have a much more realistic picture of instantaneous CPI. Those databases are currently a matter of public record, but few, if any, are online and accessible to the public. I know I went down to the town hall in Redwood City to look up who hadn't paid their taxes, and all that stuff was in the computer system I used.
I suspect there are other reasons for making the CPI an uptrend or downtrend which aren't obvious to me right now. Maybe its more secret bank loans.
The billion dollars question : How many days between BusinessWeek mentioning "Many analysts believe Greece will eventually have to restructure its debt" (cf Stocks mixed on risks to global economic recovery) and a "Greece restructures debt" headline ?
ReplyDeleteWhile I guess the consequences of Greece restructuring on the world are unpredictable, this seems to be what Greek people want, at least.
ReplyDeleteAnd it may play soon, their protests against "being austerized" are causing trouble among their leaders.
(from previously mentioned article)
Greece's government and opposition party failed late Tuesday to reach consensus on how to control the country's debt troubles, adding to the uncertainty around Greece's financial future.
Morning all! Rock, well said!
ReplyDeleteNot too much time right now, watching watching
ReplyDeleteDuring this downtrend, there are some herds that may be breaking out. For example
XME, SLX both breaking out of their down channel. Shining stars in these herds are ATI CMP FCX (but it's interesting, just FCX and not CU or SCCO), IPI MTL POT VALE
KOL is breaking out. Stars here are ANR BTU CNX MEE WLT
Oil is breaking out. both IYE and OIH show the breakout. Shining stars here include CVE DIG HES XOM SU.
Oil operations is beginning a breakout. I don't understand the relationship between the price of oil and these stocks, so this is just a comment on the breakouts. XOP is just starting to show a little (sounds pregnant?) and the stars here are APC CHK CLR EEP HOC LINE NFX OXY.
Oil equipment is breaking out a little, but it's too soon to tell. I'm watching XES and BHI.
I looked at the retail, and it's a mixed bag. I don't think I'd go to retail, but both RTH and XRT are showing a clear downtrend, but the shining stars here are BBY COH DDS DLTR DSW HOTT NFLX NKE ZUMZ
Maybe it's just the ones we expect to do well, the high-rent stocks, and the economy stocks.
This puppy is going dooowwwwwnnnnnnn. Might as well get onto QE4. Just skip 3 altogether.
ReplyDeleteI love how the MSM almost encourages people to partake in the madness anymore.
ReplyDeleteShut up and buy the tech bubble
How many investors and traders missed out on huge fortunes because they were scared? Cody Willard
I guess that wasn't really an "almost" was it?
LOL Thor. I wonder if 'ol Cody owns tech? Good grief. A nation of gamblers has learned nada. But we will someday.
ReplyDeletePeople like Cody always act like there are no bagholders in these bubbles. Everyone wins and "makes fortunes" in their world. Such tools.
ReplyDeleteOr real damage done by these bubbles. It's no problem in their fantasy rentier world where hard work is for chumps.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't dismiss Cody that lightly. I used to read him when he wrote for Real Money, and he was one of the first on the Apple bandwagon. He called for them to pass MSFT in market cap at least a year before it happened, and he was behind the stock since around $15. The only time he went negative was at the time of the options concern, or would they call that "optionsgate" these days.
ReplyDeleteGreg - I'm not sure his track record gets him off the hook for encouraging people to take part in blowing a bubble.
ReplyDeleteI know he's not doing anything different than most of the MSM with their relentless cheerleading, just thought his suggestion was a little too out there.
@greg: I don't necessarily dismiss his investing or trading track record but I DO dismiss that regular Joe and Jane should just be putting all of their dough on the stocks that he bought early in the game late in the game, and possibly FROM him. That's all I'm saying. This speculative mentality by people who have no business playing this VERY risky game with others who will eat their lunch is no better than the "buy now or be priced out forever" meme that we saw in housing and it does real damage to people and our economy and markets, as we saw. Just because he might be a great investor or trader doesn't mean he's right on this call. Sorry I DO dismiss this one.
ReplyDelete@Mannwich and Thor....I hear you both, but as in all calls, only time will tell if he is right. It is always incumbent on each investor to decide for his/her self whether or not the information provided makes sense. I would only say that he was challenged by many for his call on Apple to surpass MSFT, at the time, and for his belief in the future of the stock.
ReplyDeleteAgain, someone is going to be right on this call, and someone is going to be wrong, but isn't that what every investment comes down to?
Fair point greg, but openly encouraging regular people to jump on, and contribute to, a speculative bubble (he's OPENLY doing it) doesn't sit well with me at all after everything we've seen. This is the kind of behavior that has gotten us to this point. Why openly encourage more of it? It's pretty self-serving if you ask me.
ReplyDeleteHe's even calling it a "bubble" ("tech bubble") himself! No worries, just be an idiot and buy every bubble. It will work out fine.
ReplyDeleteI think it's shameful behavior, to be honest.
Greg - you do have a point, I'll admit that. No one really has any idea whether this is another bubble. Personally, I do not think this is another tech bubble, not yet at least. We've got a ways to go I think before these companies have proven to the naysayers that they are way over valued.
ReplyDeleteBut HE's openly calling it a bubble himself so either he's just doing it to exaggerate and make a point or he believes it's a bubble but still advises people to jump on and get out before everyone else does. That's the distinction. I appreciate his honesty but really?
ReplyDeleteI remember the tech bubble well because I was still living in San Francisco at the time. The bubble there started long before it did anywhere else in the country. I remember looking to buy my first house in 1999 and having to rush because prices were going up way too much. This was after already having been evicted TWICE in three years prior to 1999, once in 1997 because a landlord sold our flat and again a year later because the rents in our neighborhood had gone up so much. We only decided to buy in 1999 because rents were going up so fast and home prices hadn't yet caught up so it was cheaper for us to buy.
ReplyDeleteNot seeing the same kind of madness going on there now, both when I visit, and from what my friends tell me living there. Rents are still flat, home prices are still going down. We'll see whether or not this really gets to be a bubble, but so far, this is not even in the same ballpark as what went on in the mid to late 90's. At least not for the SF Bay Area.
And to give you an idea of just how MUCH of a bubble it was, for both stocks and real estate, and how much earlier it started than in the rest of the nation. We bought our first home in 1999 for 200K and sold it in 2004 for 375K.
ReplyDeleteRock (9:01) - What is this "Governement Inaccuracies" you are talking about.
ReplyDeleteHuh...Governement Inaccuracies... Like THAT would ever happen.
You Heathen
Mutt
Great thoughts, Thor. Proof that these bubbles actually do hurt people in the real world. They extract real wealth and money from what could be,and could have been, used for other productive uses. There's a real opportunity cost there. An enormous one for a society and country. We bought in '05 here, not because we wanted to get rich off of our house but because we had just moved from NYC, rented all of our lives and got sick of it, and wanted to settle down and raise a family in a good neighborhood. The fact that we bought near the top of the housing bubble had nothing to do with us being "greedy" and wanting to make money off of it, but what should we have done, wait even longer to buy, put our lives on hold in the process, and potentially watch prices go even higher? These speculative bubbles have all sorts of adverse effects on human behavior and society and to openly advocate buying into one AGAIN is shameful. Sorry.
ReplyDelete@Thor: In your case, you made out on the first bubble, but what about the people that buy late, as you did recently in LA? You won't win on that one, as I won't win on the purchase of my house. I'll be lucky if we break even after staying 10-20 years.
ReplyDelete@Manny...my thoughts are that he's using the term bubble because that is what so many others are calling it. I think his point is, that it is not in fact a bubble. I could be wrong. In the case of Apple and Google, he is at least recommending two companies actually making money.
ReplyDeleteI hear you, greg. I'm just uncomfortable with the terminology he's using if he really believes the terminology is correct.
ReplyDeleteOdd 0 U - I'm not getting a comments window on my other machine. Greg - are you having any problems?
ReplyDeleteManny, oooh, the universe took care of that for me. I made out on that first house, but I bought the house I live in now in July of 2005. How's THAT for timing the top? ;-)
Hey wait, that's a bad thing in this case!
Nevermind - :-0
ReplyDeleteThat's the thing, Thor. With housing, even if you sell your primary home and make a bundle off it quickly, if you still turn around and buy another home in that SAME market environment, you end up running in place. The only way you make out is if you buy low, sell high, sit it out (and rent) for a while, then buy low again. Who's going to do that, aside from the vultures out there who have the time, wherewithal, and money to purchase multiple homes and cash in? The only people who really make out in such speculative bubbles are in the insiders and their handmaidens, meaning the realtors, mortgage peeps, banks, and yes, Wall Street. The same is true of any bubble, actually.
ReplyDeleteIt's all about TRANSACTIONS for these people. Buy/Sell/buy/sell/buy/sell.......
ReplyDeleteKeep the transactions rolling and skim a little (or a lot) on each one. That's the game on Wall Street. Sound familiar? Look to that sandy place in NV for a hint.
"Libya's wealth fund takes a bath on complex investments". www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/top-business-stories
ReplyDeleteFund stashed billions of country's oil wealth in WallStreet and Euorpean banks. GS, JPM and SocGen involved. No Cdn bank.
Wolves!
What are the masses to do? Gaddaffi or Banksters.
ICan
For the life of me I can't figure out why i can't comment on my other machine. I hate having to troubleshoot my own damn issues :-/
ReplyDeleteMannt - VERY true words!
Manny even !
ReplyDeleteSentiment lowest since Aug 2010, and U$D at resistence.
ReplyDeleteTwo posts at Trader Mark -fundmymutualfund.com
ICan
Weighing in on the "bubble"
ReplyDeleteI think we have a substantial bubble caused by the advertising dollar.
Bloomberg reports that over half the internet traffic in the evenings is Netflix and Youtube movie downloads, and netsurfing traffic has been cut by half.
The Advertising dollar has ruined TV. 20 minutes of programming time per half-hour is just not something people stand for. Now, you download the TV programs you want to watch. And the downloads are advertising-free. And you can watch them when you want. Or you subscribe to HBO and watch a movie advertising-free.
The Advertising dollar is ruining net surfing. The popup ads for bras that men surfers don't need waste time and bandwidth. Now advertising is being put on youtube so that little window on the right side of your screen starts playing a commercial, and interrupts your web surfing, and sucks your bandwidth.
So watch out for companies whose revenue model is the advertising dollar. Like Facebook. People will abandon that quickly once an advertising-free solution is found.
I had dinner the other night with an old classmate who is now a senior exec at Lever. After I told him the technology I use to cut the ads from my webpages, he was incensed. He told me I can't do that, and that was Un-American.
Signed, the Un-American Heathen
@Thor, your 1:57
ReplyDeleteBuy a $450 Wintel PC, load Windows 2000, and Mozilla.
You'll have no problem commenting and surfing the net.
@Rock,
ReplyDeleteBurberry and Tiffany report BTE results - Marketwatch and Telegraph.
ICan
2 questions:
ReplyDelete1. What do you think will happen when the Republicans won't sign up for higher taxes, the Dems won't sign up for entitlement cuts, and we don't pay on our debt?
2. What do you think will happen when Grease defaults (restructures, cancels, delays, or otherwise doesn't pay on their debt)?
My answers: 1: The treasury yields double and the market falls like a flying monkey
2: Nothing. The market has a braxton hick then it's over.
Supreme Court upheld the AZ illegal aileen hiring law.
ReplyDeleteThe opinion is that States can write their own methods of supporting the US Federal law prohibiting the hiring of ill-eagle aileens.
(You know what you call a girl with one leg? Aileen.)
So Mutt, destroy all evidence in your home and business.
@ICan:
ReplyDeleteYeah, I've been holding TIF, I didn't look today but the other day TDAmeritrade said I'd made 12%.
Can't wait to get back to the Palo Alto mall with my blue Mikimoto bag for my free TIF coffee. Maybe they'll have Lattes this time.
Rock - D'uh! I use VMare all day long. Brain fart :-)
ReplyDeleteNice little turn-around this afternoon.
ReplyDelete@Rock
ReplyDeleteYour(2:35)
Join Gingrich who has U$500,000 credit line form Tiffany &CO. Free Lattes!
ICan
I agree with that, Rock. Advertising is killing the Internet, but how do you get people to pay for a service when they've been trained that it should be FREE for so long?
ReplyDeleteHuffpo is doing something similar with these annoying ad videos that pop up and take over your screen. You literally have to click on something to opt out after it starts but the button is hard to find, on purpose, I'm sure. I have to admit, this WILL deter my Internet usage if it continues. I'd rather pay a small fee for the sites that enjoy the most. I only have a handful in my regular rotation anyway.
ReplyDeleteWhat if certain like-minded, similar topical sites partnered up with each other and offered a package, e.g. you get premium content from sites like TBP, CR, NC (and AT!??!) or others (in maybe all or a la carte form?) for a fee or something? I think that could work, no? Is this aleady done?
ReplyDeleteA lot of green on my screen, including my small equities and commmodities/PM's plays AND TLT. Something amiss there?
ReplyDelete@MAnnwich, your 3:02
ReplyDeleteIt's been available for a long time, since um, 1980 or so? Called USENET groups.
Google used to support a USENET server, but because of the porn, I think they changed over to a limited USENET server. Go to Google, click "more" go down to "groups".
You'll see tons of posts. Post a question. You'll get an answer.
Of course, I'm old, but I use it fairly often, and ask stoopid Vista questions. The Microsoft groups are moderated by MVPs.
@Thor:
ReplyDeleteMaybe that's why every once in awhile I can't cut-and-paste from the clipboard in this "post a Comment" field.
It may be a VMW "feature". It violates policy for me to go to the root machine and go to internet from there, so I'll have to figure out how to test that.
But that was great input!
Good thought, Rock, but what I was thinking was a way to simply access a small grouping of sites' content (since most people are creatures of habit and go to only a handful of sites every day), while by-passing all the ads. I'll check it out but does this do that?
ReplyDelete@MAnnwich
ReplyDeleteNo, sorry, with the usenet groups you get a ton of junk.
But it's all text based, so the bandwidth and popup movies aren't supported.
China buying Portugal debt, and POMO. - businessinsider.com/end of day summary.
ReplyDeleteICan
Aha! Greg, You must be having issues as well. The blog keeps hanging on the google crap. Hopefully that will get fixed. I've found that if you just wait, the comment window will eventually pop up. OR, if you have VMWare, PC's aren't having this issue. (Wolfie you shush ;-)
ReplyDeleteI guess that would be Rock :)
ReplyDeleteMy oldest is just finishing up with degrees in both Marketing and Advertising. She has said that some of her classes pertain directly to internet advertising.
From the few conversations she and I have had it sounds like internet advertising is just in it infancy. Meaning the advertisers know where they want to go, but they also know the hurdles that lie in front of them.
Pressure is almost always on the side of money, so every time an advertiser can get someone to notice their add, they make money and since the internet is the fastest way to get information and entertainment it wont be long before they find ways around just about any loophole.
Mutt
Rock (2:32) - So let me get my poor little brain wrapped around this the Supreme Court
ReplyDelete"The opinion is that States can write their own methods of supporting the US Federal law prohibiting the hiring of ill-eagle aileens"
So they are basically saying Arizona can make up it’s own laws regarding how illegals are hired – Is that correct?
However the same state (Arizona) passes a law that enforces a federal law that is already on the books (If someone does something illegal that they show proof of identification) and people attack them like they are talking about reviving Satan.
It sounds like even the American’s are being un-American.
Mutt
Just wanted to let you guys, know I got home tonight and my wife had made Sloppy Joes - Or if you are an Un-American Heathen Mannwich's
ReplyDeleteBut of course we do not have any hamburger buns, so we are using regular bread.
They might not be perfect Mannwich's, but they are better then no Mannwich at all.
Mutt
@Thor,6:34PM: Alright I hear you buddy, you don't want my help then. Too bad..
ReplyDelete(don't hesitate to ask for pointers when you're fed up with that fruitless mess though. :D)