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Monday, January 17, 2011

Manny Mondays: Whither Europe?

Happy MLK Day everyone! Since the U.S. markets are closed today, I thought I'd focus my sights across the pond on Paul Krugman's Sunday NY Times Magazine's article about Europe's burgeoning currency crisis and whether the European Union can be saved or not, as well as the consequences for them and the rest of the world if it is not held together.

In the rather long article, Krugman takes a deep, detailed historical look at how Europe got to this point and what's likely in store for them down the road:

Here's an excerpt:

The tragedy of the Euromess is that the creation of the euro was supposed to be the finest moment in a grand and noble undertaking: the generations-long effort to bring peace, democracy and shared prosperity to a once and frequently war-torn continent. But the architects of the euro, caught up in their project’s sweep and romance, chose to ignore the mundane difficulties a shared currency would predictably encounter — to ignore warnings, which were issued right from the beginning, that Europe lacked the institutions needed to make a common currency workable. Instead, they engaged in magical thinking, acting as if the nobility of their mission transcended such concerns.

Krugman also looks at the bind many Euro-denominated countries now find themselves in, as they lack the flexibility to devalue their currency to help spur a recovery in their respective local economies and make themselves more competitive in the global economy:

Still, there are obviously benefits from a currency union. It’s just that there’s a downside, too: by giving up its own currency, a country also gives up economic flexibility.

Imagine that you’re a country that, like Spain today, recently saw wages and prices driven up by a housing boom, which then went bust. Now you need to get those costs back down. But getting wages and prices to fall is tough: nobody wants to be the first to take a pay cut, especially without some assurance that prices will come down, too. Two years of intense suffering have brought Irish wages down to some extent, although Spain and Greece have barely begun the process. It’s a nasty affair, and as we’ll see later, cutting wages when you’re awash in debt creates new problems.

If you still have your own currency, however, you wouldn’t have to go through the protracted pain of cutting wages: you could just devalue your currency — reduce its value in terms of other currencies — and you would effect a de facto wage cut.


He argues that despite some of the positives that the Euro brought to Europe, it's lack of "fiscal integration" (along with lack of a common language and shared culture) was, and still is, one of the main problems with maintaining its viability over the long term. Krugman even makes a comparison to the situation in Argentina back in the 90's when it continually tried to save its peso link to the dollar and culminating with them defaulting on their debts and only paying back about 35 cents on the dollar.

He then proceeds to outline four potential "plot lines" for the Euro and the likely effects of each on Europe, the U.S., and the rest of the world.

Go read the whole article here:

Can Europe Be Saved?

My question today is this: What's the ultimate end game here for the Euro? And, if the European Union fails to survive, and the Euro goes the way of the dodo bird (or in very least continues its slow descent), what are the ramifications for them, the U.S. (particularly the U.S. dollar) and global economy itself? One thing I'm thinking is perhaps a stronger dollar at least temporarily? And, yes, as a renter of both TLT and UUP, I am talking my book, but what does everyone else think?

34 comments:

  1. Shanghai Composite taking a beating today. Closed -3% at 2707.

    If 2700 doesn't hold, my guess is next stop is 2600, then 2400. That's July 2010 support, which, if broken, will confirm the index is still in a downtrend(ie lower low).

    Anyway, just my 2 cents on the Chinese case. We're still far from the 2400 line.

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  2. From Marketwatch.com

    "David Marsh: Motives behind China's Euro purchases".

    China and Japan are turning into the euro's best friends. Beining is conducting a charm campaign over purchases of Greece, Portugal and Spain.

    "Guess Hu's coming to dinner". China's prez coming to the U.S. this week.

    ICan

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  3. New mortgage rules in Canada from today, to cool down the r/e market without hiking rates.



    ICan

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  4. Thanks, Manny. I have to read the entire article but I have to think that at some point they just abandon the Euro, mainly because Germany/France cannot carry the rest of Europe. Getting rid of the Euro allows those weaker countries to devalue with out destabilizing all of Europe.

    If they do abandon the Euro, it might cause an economic panic so how it is accomplished is almost more important than the fact.

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  5. Wolfie,

    Thanks for the heads up. I posted this article last week about the fraud in Chinese businesses:

    Texas Short Seller Fights China Fraud in $20 Billion U.S. Shares

    How long before the weakness in China spills over to the US?

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  6. "Hedgefunds Reduce Bullish Gold Bets" http://noir.bloomberg.com/news/regions/canada.html

    Metal has climbed for past 10 years, profit taking?

    "Tunisian Uprising May threaten Arab Rulers sharing Ben Ali's regime model". htt://noir.bloomberg.com

    Incidents of self-immolation in Egypt. Mauritania, and Algeria.

    ICan

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  7. Another rate hike may be coming in both China and India - bloomberg.com

    Inflation is just too much.

    ICan

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  8. Got a funny feeling that we're finally headed for our big market sell off this week. Not based on facts at all. Just a hunch.

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  9. Watch how this latest tax evasion whistle-blower gets thrown under the bus for his efforts.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/julian-assange-press-conference-julius-baer-whistleblower-rudolf-elmer-begins

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  10. @Manny,

    Your hunches have been pretty damn good lately, you called for the stock market rally to continue when others were calling for a move back to the 800's!

    Internal stats have been flashing red for a few months now so it would not be surprising if we do sell off soon.

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  11. @Manny,

    I am interested in the wikileak's 2000 tax evaders, if it ever gets released. I read it will be embarrassing to many powerful people.

    Who will, of course, settle for a few pennies on the dollar and go about their merry way.

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  12. @Denise: Exactly but I honestly don't think many of those people are capable of embarrassment, if you ask me. It's now admirable to evade taxes and those people basically do what they want and they know it.

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  13. @Manny,

    I look for a lot of finger pointing at their "advisors".

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  14. Of course! It "the help's" fault.

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  15. Hey all! Running errands for a big part of the day.

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  16. Loaf of Bread and some BannasJanuary 17, 2011 at 2:32 PM

    Thor - While you are out running errands, do you mind picking me up a loaf of bread and some bananas?

    Thanks
    Mutt

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  17. Mutt - hah, I'll see what I can do - they might be a little stale by the time they make it up to you in Washington :-)

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  18. Manny - Great post, I'd read the Krugman article over the weekend. Also heard someone on NPR (can't remember who) who seemed pretty convinced that 'several' countries were going to pull out of the Euro in the next two years.

    Personally, if the Euro is going to go away, I think it's going to take a lot longer than people imagine. If it happens at all, I'd bet money it won't happen until our next Crisis, whenever that ends up being.

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  19. I guess one thing to be grateful for in a back door sort of way; at least this time around, we KNOW another crisis is guaranteed. Now we just have to figure out how to get ready for this next one when it comes.

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  20. Good Manny Monday thread. Thks. Haven't read the article yet (man, 8 pages!), but from your synthesis, here's my take.

    I believe the 'lack of "fiscal integration"', and more broadly the lack of any meaningful integration (economic, fiscal or social) is at the heart of this long-running crisis.

    My current understanding is that there are 2 major holes in the making of EU:

    * a common debt issuing institution: that's the eurobond which are being discussed broadly these days.
    * a debt resolution mechanism, to solve defaults in an orderly fashion. Zero risk investements? my ass, take your losses that's all.

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  21. You know my love for politics of any breed, so I can't help pointing my accusing finger at them:

    What were you guys thinking back then ?? that you could create this web of entangled debts while having each member going about his own business? how did you not see that we were all in it together, and define safeguards accordingly?

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  22. As for your latest success stories, what's the logic in postponing every last bit of funding, waiting for interest rates to go over the roof EACH TIME, before announcing a bailout or increasing your rescue fund?

    Or maybe it is 1) that you don't want to put your career at risk, and wait for the last moment to show you didn't have the choice. or 2) you've got some secret interests in letting the rumor grow each time..?

    Whatever the reason, if/when (I sure hope it won't, but stakes look high) this spreads to France, you international morons, Trichet and DSK and friends, had better disappear fast into some remote place of the world. I've heard they are very welcoming to people of your kind in Saudi Arabia these days.

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  23. As for your latest success stories, what's the logic in postponing every last bit of funding, waiting for interest rates to go over the roof EACH TIME, before announcing a bailout or increasing your rescue fund?

    Or maybe it is 1) that you don't want to put your career at risk, and wait for the last moment to show you didn't have the choice. or 2) you've got some secret interests in letting the rumor grow each time..?

    Whatever the reason, if/when this spreads to France (I sure hope it won't, but stakes look high), you international morons, Trichet and DSK and friends, had better disappear fast into some remote place of the world. I've heard they are very welcoming to people of your kind in Saudi Arabia these days.

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  24. @WolfStreet: They were thinking of themselves and how to win the game of politics (read: how best to kick the can to some other sucker(s)). When self-interest constantly everything else, and then some, this is what happens.

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  25. @Manny:definitely. But to light things up:pretty much all we can do is trying to be happy, and help others around us, according to our means. You sometimes mention something like that, with which I agree. Greed always has, and always will be. Kill it, it will come back even stronger..

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  26. Manny - Will be interesting to see who all is on that list from the Swiss banker. I wonder if we've all become so jaded that this will be like the last round of leaks, ie; just confirming what we already knew, rather than being shocked.

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  27. Also heard a really good piece on the Arab world on NPR on my way back in to LA. Tunisia is fascinating, not necessarily because it will end with free and fair democracy - who knows whether it'll eventually go that route. But because it opened up yet another door to instability into and extremely unstable part of the world. Iran, Iraq, Israel, Palestine, now Tunisia - apparently people are now starting to light themselves on fire in Algeria, Egypt, and Mauritania. Throw in rising food prices and . . . . well, use your imagination :-/

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  28. Duvalier back in Haiti. marketwatch.com video

    One dictator leaves(Tunisia), another(Duvalier) returns.


    ICan

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  29. Good for her, the gift that keeps on giving! Gosh, I hope she never goes away!

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  30. Sarah Palin:

    "I am not ready to make an announcement about what my political future is going to be. But I will tell you ... I am not going to sit down. I am not going to shut up,"she said.

    And a collective cheer was heard coming from the White House! Victory in 2012!

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  31. For instance;

    "For many years maps in political races have been used to target certain districts that people would feel that they can get into those districts to whom they believe would represent the constituents' will better than the incumbent," she added.

    Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

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  32. About Elmer:

    It may be that in Switzerland, it is not illegal to assist in the secreting of illegally gotten monies from overseas. It may be that this practice is encouraged, as it is in the Canaan Islands. In fact, the Swiss government may need it in order to continue to guarantee their neutrality.

    However, it may be illegal in other countries, as it is in the US. So the leaders of the bank in question may face indictment in the US, and perhaps other countries.

    It may be that filing a warrant with Interpol, the US DOJ could force the bankers to face trial and imprisionment in the US. I mean, that's what happened to Assange, over a simple allegation, not over information divulged during a court trial and under subpoena.

    So we'll see how the US DOJ plays this one out.

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  33. @Mannwich

    Good article and a good synopsis. I have been reading up and studying this, because it seems, as go the dollar, so inversely go the markets.

    The US, therefore, will do everything in its power to keep the euro strong. A strong euro means our market is up, the the pension funds are safe (relatively).

    So my opinion that the FED will continue to buy bonds from bondholders they choose (like European banks), and give them the bucks, to keep the Euro strong.

    I don't think we will see a failure of the Euro. If the Euro fails, the economic situation in the US also fails, the pension funds fail, the banks can't loan and we're all toast.

    An extremely wealthy friend of mine is buying a farm, that has on-premises water. He asked me an odd question; he wanted to know if I ever worked a farm.

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