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Tuesday, December 7, 2010

Let's party

Well imagine that we parked, get out of the cars and in to the long awaited party.
When we enter it looks evident the good times, ebullient people chatting and laughing everywhere, get our coats off while being greeted by the hosts though not much attention is being paid to what is said, we just want to get in and finally here we are.

Marvelling at the crystal chandellier from a bygone era is an unspoken tribute to the talent and craftmanship that populated the land around the 1920's, when it was made with the secondary objective to dazzle future generations.

Then it dawn on us when we mingle with all that beautiful and sophisticated people that they talk funny, yeah really really funny. We briefly look disconcerted but just laugh as a way to borrow time regaining our composure and "coolness".It's amazing how engaging the crowd is with all of us.

Their talking funny their utterances the meanings of what is said is lost to us, we don't get it.
Of course we laugh at least we didn't have to pay cover charge. Anyway we are fine comfortable and we even think that we are with the right crowd.
Of course we all shared the body language and that looks like enough to get cozy.We all understand body language so we indulge in checking body language and specially the bodies that come wrapped in flimsy dresses, but I digress.

At certain point after scanning the whole place for more "body language" one of us starts speaking with the objective to introduce ourselves.

And his words sound as unintelligible as with the rest of the crowd. Giddily we start speaking and with all of us the same happens, mesmerized by our own sounds not knowing how to decode it we just happily start conversing and laughing even though nobody can understand a fucking word.

This is what I call our rationality, human rationality.

We pretend that we understand what is being said manufacturing creating words that nobody can understand but us, and just partially because we are not sure if this is an accurate way to represent our inner feelings neither to ourselves nor to others. Not even want to go further and try to imagine what kind of concoctions other people use to create their own words.

In al that caos thank God we have for a fact something more primitive, shared and reliable: body language.

Now think about the foreclosure scandal and it's effect in the equity market, none.
The California budget crisis (this year and the previous one) nope.
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania crisis and Muni bonds in distress, nada.
The bond vigilantes dissatisfied with meager returns, nil.
The employment numbers past week, zero.
The ECRI numbers 3 months ago and the doble dip recession as a sure thing, nilch.
Ireland, Grece? Not either (will see when Spain comes)
Insiders selling at a record level (10, 12 weeks ago) Niet.

That's the drawdown of rationality and the way MSM presents it. At moments work in the way that logic tell us it should and some times don't, yeah...freaking comforting.


Now if we check "body language" what we can get.

Decoupling ridiculed 3 years ago is for real bringing India and China to the place that occupied as GDP world leaders (till the start of the industrial revolution) for centuries.

World GDP around the 2008 high record levels.

Companies cleaning their balance sheets in one of their best moments in the past five decades (and the debt is capital at its disposal for investment, trading, M&A, etc, so not too shabby for having debt if used to generate profits).

Politicians Dem. and Rep. realizing that if they leave 2 million people without unemployment benefits were going to be set ablaze in a short while and for nothing because like I mentioned couple months ago it just not going to happen that they let them die without food in an internment camp in some kind of class cleansing.

Intel as a representative sample made 8-10 times more money the past quarter than in 2008.Which by the numbers doesn't look fantastic but my point is not the amount of money earned instead that someone is buying their stuff. Economic activity.
The world is not in 2008 anymore as a fact.
Of course this doesn't mean at all that we can't go back to that time and even worse, but facts tell me that we are not in 2008.

Currency wars as theater because every nation is going to devalue keeping pace with the rest or slap taxes to foreign capital to neutralize the disparity (think Brazil).

The state (government) ready to absorb the entire house market relieving banksters that can in some way start cleaning their balance sheets.

Banks growing larger and larger, (not a good thing, just a fact) so they are probably planning to sell more and more financial products to the world to keep pace and as a way of feeding a growing base of people who got attracted to that line of business.Meaning everything needs to expand just to get a decent bonus.

So I'm not at ease with rational thinking in the equity markets because one day goes up and with the same information being presented the next day brings it down,

That's my reason for checking only body language, because it doesn't lie.

Dan


(About the markets I have to study this coming couple months before saying more than I did past Tuesday)

48 comments:

  1. DAstro, I needed that reality check. Thanks.

    I owe you a favor, anytime you want.

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  2. Dentist again today! Be back later.

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  3. Who needs "rational thinking" when Santa is clearly in da house?!?!

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  4. Rock on, Santa! Pretty up those year-end statements and dole out those big bonuses.

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  5. @Rock, Dan, Thor

    Thanks for response to my questions last night.


    I Can

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  6. Bank of Canada will keep prime rate at 1%. So loonie is staying put.

    Silver is over $30.

    @Dan, I am looking forward to reading your 'forcast' for 2011.

    I Can

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  7. Don't bull markets usually end on good news, not bad? Are we fast reaching that point?

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  8. "Swimming with the sharks".

    http://macro-man.blogspot.com

    Good read.

    I Can

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  9. Morning all !

    Dastro, thanks for a great post, reading now. . . .

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  10. Hello new high. So much for 1224

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  11. So much for silver over $30. Is that JPM?

    If PMs really took-off, they can always raise margins? No?

    CBs possibly would not/cann't allow another monetary system as it would undermine fiat?

    Just clearing my mind. No position in Silver yet.


    I Can

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  12. Great Post Great ReadDecember 7, 2010 at 11:36 AM

    Dastro - Great piece you put up, it certainly helps to make clear the confusing signals I have been getting. I never thought about it as what is being said vs. body language.

    I still dont trust the way things are heading, but your post helps to understand the mood.

    Thanks

    Mangy Mutt

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  13. Mannwich - Maybe it is because I do not understand the language currently being spoken and am mis-cunstruing the body language. But I really wish the QE4Evah and other games would have ended a couple years ago.

    Personally, I think everyone of the big players is having way to much fun at this party to let a little good news end their fun so quickly.

    We might have some good news here and there, but this market is partying hard man.

    Mutt

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  14. Dastro - Excellent post man!

    The example you used about the party to set your point was brilliant!

    Sheesh, you, Manny, and Rock have really stepped it up lately, I'm going to have to come up with something a little better than my usual cut and paste :-)

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  15. "WikiLeaks: China's GDP FIgures are, "Man Made"..or at Least one Province's(wink, wink). www.fundmymutualfund.com

    I know India's inflation is way higher than they report it. Cooked numbers.

    I Can

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  16. ICan -

    Reading . . . . . Have always thought it was silly that the MSM actually reports China's economic reports as anything other than fiction.

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  17. Fascinating debate between Schiff and Shilling on Deflation vs Inflation.


    THE INFLATION VS DEFLATION DEBATE
    7 DECEMBER 2010
    Peter Schiff, the long-time hyperinflationist, takes on Gary Shilling, the long-time deflationist. I don’t think either quite understands how the monetary system works, but Shilling is much closer to getting it right. In particular, he notes that the Fed does not create money – they only create reserves. This proves that Shilling maintains a key fundamental understanding that Schiff does not. Schiff has been calling for a spike in rates and a collapsing dollar for years on end. He thinks the USA is going bankrupt and that default is right around the corner. Could he have been more wrong? The debate follows:



    The Inflations VS Deflation Debate

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  18. Schiff is an ass - talks all over Shilling trying to drown out his arguments.

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  19. Citi - volume is something else. If only it can go above $5 and hold.

    I Can

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  20. CAD against major currencies -red except JPY. So much for risk on day.

    I Can

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  21. I hope we do not end in the kitchen washing the plates,sheesh.

    A good read about who creates money.Read it like 3 times to get a clear grasp but is worth it.Ah nice to be in the house with all the cold outside.

    Yes I have to start studying 2011 to see if the party keeps going or the music stops, will see.
    Dan

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  22. Sorry, here it is the link.


    http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=1623

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  23. This is very funny and ON POINT:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/in-latest-compromise-with_b_793232.html

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  24. Dastro great article - very similar to PragCap's position. Have read through it once, but you're right, it requires more than one reading :-/

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  25. Manwich - Did you just fart?

    Cuz it looks like the party just might be ending.

    Sheesh that is quit the nose dive the market just took.

    Mangy Mutt

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  26. Well hello there 1224, nice to see you again.

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  27. Market tops usually happen on seeming good news, right?

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  28. Back tested this morning's gap up on S&P 500


    I Can

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  29. I Can, What does it mean when the gap gets back tested?

    Thanks

    Mutt

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  30. @Mutt,

    Look at S&P 500 index on stockcharts, it closed around 1223 yesterday. Today opened at 1234. 10 point gap. For that uptrend to hold and be real and not be a headfake, market should come down to 1223 and then go back upwards. Sometimes, gaps down get filled for months.

    I've learned A LOT from Trader Mark since 2006-2007.

    See his post from this morning - "Filling this morning's gap". www.fundmymutualfund.com

    Stockcharts.com is a really good site. Allows you to check out Smas, emas, etc.

    I Can

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  31. @Mutt,

    What do you think," A most important rule" -John P. Hussman

    http://www.hussman.net/wmc/wmc101206.htm

    Don't fight the tape,
    Don't fight the fed,

    One more, which he thinks is the most important.

    I Can

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  32. What a day - I don't understand how people get anything done at all going to meetings most of the day. They seem to breed like flies.

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  33. "Dollar turns up as U.S. yields jumps". www,marketwatch.com

    "Dollar rally eases gains for risky assets as surge in treasury yields attract investors". http://www.ft.com/home/us

    so much for Pomo.

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  34. Now that I have rejoined the living I have to catch up as I haven't looked at the markets all day.

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  35. Only 431 new highs today, which is much less than the 569 on 11/4/10 , S&P 1225.85.

    And is significantly trailing the 674 new highs on 4/26/10 S&P 1212.05.

    These negative divergences suggest that there are fewer stocks participating in the rally.

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  36. I Can, Thanks for the link, I have it open, but will be busy for most of the evening so will read it soon.

    As far as which rule is more important it kind of seems like which one of these is most important.

    Don't go swimming with sharks
    or
    Don't go swimming with alligators

    Either one can get you killed.

    Mutt

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  37. Denise - Welcome back, I hope you are feeling ok.

    Let me take a minute to catch you up on what happened with the market today.

    The Market was up - Then it went down - It went up a little - Then down a little more then it went up when if first started - Then it was all over.

    The end.

    I hope that helps :)

    Mutt

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  38. The Nasdaq Composite is also showing the same pattern:

    4/26/10 421 New Highs 2530.15

    11/4/10 356 New HIghs 2579.34

    12/7/10 352 New Highs 2598.49

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  39. Thanks Mutt. I never respond well after dental work, just needed a bit of a nap.

    I can see that the market pretty much ended where it started.

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  40. And in the meantime, the crazies over at ZH are STILL waiting for the world to end. Heckuva way to spend one's short time on earth.

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  41. Denise - Ah! I understand that (for a change!)

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  42. Whaddya know? The O man caves AGAIN. This guy may end up being WORSE than W, all things considered.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/08/us/politics/08impact.html?_r=1&hp

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  43. Manny - I know! It' so sad isn't it? People who spend so much time being miserable about things, and hyperventilating about a collapse that we won't have any control over anyhow, and they miss the wonderful things going on all around them.

    I think though, that that says a lot more about a personality trait than anything else. You notice how similar minded people tend to group together. Most of these people believe what they believe for emotional reasons - their viscous attacks at anyone who dare questions their beliefs should be evidence of that.

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  44. @Manny,

    When Obama loses this guy then you know he is in trouble:

    Time To Think The Unthinkable: A Democratic Primary Challenge to Obama's Re-Election

    It is not easy to consider challenging the first African-American to be elected as President of the United States. But, regrettably, I believe that the time has come to do this.

    It is time for Progressives to stop "whining" and arguing among themselves about whether President Obama will or will not do this or that. Obama is no different than any other President, nominated by his national party. He was elected with the hard work and 24/7 commitment of persons who believed and enlisted in his campaign for "Hope" and "Change."

    You don't have to be a rocket scientist nor have a PhD in political science and sociology to see clearly that Obama has abandoned much of the base that elected him. He has done this because he no longer respects, fears or believes those persons who elected him have any alternative, but to accept what he does, whether they like it or not.

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  45. Wow denise. Amazing how fast his stock has fallen. That's what happens when you poke your base (your biggest supporters) in the eye at EVERY turn.

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  46. Next Black PresidentDecember 8, 2010 at 1:40 AM

    Sadly Baraks actions will cause it to be another 200 years before the next black president is elected.

    I did not vote for the idiot - I could careless what color, gender or ethnic background he (Or anyone else) comes from - But during the campaigns he said amongst other things "I have been to 52 states and hope to make it to the other 2 this week" he only shows he does not know the basic facts of the U.S.;Therefore in my opinion has no business presiding over it/us.

    Being the president of the most powerful nation on earth is an extremely important job, to which we had the likes of Ronald Regan state (Paraphrased) Only an idiot would want to be president and the government is made of inept people.

    We just had our first and probably last black president who gained the support of vast groups of people because his "Hopes of change" and now he is alienating those supporters.

    Even if we could get as great of man as Booker T Washington to run for president, he would now not be elected because the black man (Barak)in front of him is an idiot.

    Mutt

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