The unambiguous winners of Tahrir Square
One of the best videos you will ever watch in your life
Wael Ghonim: A "One-Off" for Silicon Valley?
The Youth Unemployment Bomb
Egyptian Public Opinion
How one man tracked down Anonymous—and paid a heavy price
The overblown threat from "Islamic terrorism". Remember this when the Security State comes calling.
Cracking the Scratch Lottery Code
The Disruption of Bronze
Nice links, Emmanuel117.
ReplyDeleteMy opinion about Wael:
Every multinational company will at one time or another run into situations that will try its resilience to pressures from friendly and unfriendly governments. Every company that I know of has an employee agreement which makes the employee face the fact that they may be personally in contact with that outside pressure. And an employee taking the position, specifically with a multinational company as a product manager for a mulitnational product, must know this when he/she signs that employee agreement.
Salaried positions are not hourly. You don't have the option to "quit for 8 hours" and do what you want. You work for the company 24/7. When you do something that is not in the best interest of the company, you must face the consequences.
The right thing for Wael to do was quit or notify and take leave, and go be an activist. Instead, he used his position and power to leverage his importance to assist the protesters. To say "my company was not involved" shows immaturity and ignorance. I would hope GOOG could find better prepared employees.
I enjoyed the video, and I got a kick out of this one, especially the leader:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7341978n&tag=watchnow
And the link about Anonymous is a great article. You can see how they gained access: not through hacking and network invasion, but through friendship.
Those social networking sites are dangerous. Also dangerous is who you give root access to.
@Emmanuel,
ReplyDeleteThank you for the links. Yes, the video is one of the best for sure!. I can imagine what people must have felt in India on Aug. 15, 1947. But it's been a long road, however, rewarding for a lot of people - those who were able to educate their kids.
ICan
Re, cracking a lottery code. A guy who was using his head.
ReplyDeleteLot of contraversy in Canada over lotteries. Vendors who kept winning lotteries, cheated their customers, and authorities ignoring calls. Scandle in Ontario. Fixed now.
ICan
Re, Egypt Influence Network,
ReplyDeleteFascinating, beautiful!
ICan
Great link fest Emmie - agree with Ican - the Egypt Influence Network is beautiful!
ReplyDeleteE
ReplyDeleteThe money laundering angle in the lottery piece was key.
Gamal Mubarak behind leader's surprise attempt to retain power
ReplyDeleteEmmy,
ReplyDeleteas per usual, nice linkage~
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ICan,
out of curiosity, what does this:
"...@Thor,
I was going to "mubarak" you. Clue: going Hoffer on you.
ICan
February 11, 2011 11:14 AM
mean?
Here’s some trading notes from my homework.
ReplyDeleteHomework’s not done yet, but I’m still mostly full of bull. The Fed is still buying treasuries, although it looks like about a 4:1 ratio, that is, there are 4 times the amount of Treasuries submitted for the buyback reverse auction for each one that’s bought. I think this means it’s a buyer’s market, and the Fed is likely to make a lot of money. But who knows, the yields may go up a lot, and the price may plummet, in which case the Fed would be left holding the bag. Of treasuries.
You don’t suppose the government would let that happen, do you?
Anyway:
I have noticed that my selection of stocks to watch and trade are very choppy lately, and my profits are cut because I don’t seem to be picking the ones that are trending the way I want them to trend, that is, up up and away in this market. So I did a screen, and got a list of stocks that have increased in price the last 3 trading days.
Of that list, the 3LB WEEKLY shows we are NEGATIVE on the following list ot stocks:
RFMD NDAQ LIFE CHRW CME CY DECK ENDP MIPS QGEN SNDK DLR ED ESI ESS JNY KO LPS LUV NSC RCL RY SVU T TMX VAR
I’m taking this list out, in order to generate the list of the strongest momentum stocks. However this list above may be the list of a turnaround stock, that is one that will trend higher more quickly. I may watch this list, looking for a pullback to see if the pullback is a lower low, and if it is, then that stock would still be trending down.
Of the list that’s left, the 3LB DAILY shows we are NEGATIVE on the following list:
AMTD ATHR ESRX FLEX JASO NTAP SLXP SOLR THOR TRMB ADS AIV ARO AVB CVD EQR HD MHP MKC SYY TIN TRW CHRW CME
This would indicate these stocks are in a turn-around phase, and may be candidates for shorts if our Up-Up-and-Away market turns. Remember: short weakness. Don’t short AAPL.
Additionally I am removing
CCL DOV SHW THC TKR TMO VNG VTR LIFE
Because they are very choppy on the 3LB and are not trending. That leaves us with this list:
ACAS ADI ADTN AEO AGU ALK ALTR AMG AMP AMT AMZN AON APH AXE BBBY BC BCR BEXP BGC BIDU BIG BLK BRE BWA CBE CBS CCK CCL DCNS CMG CNI COH COO COV CSX CVC CXO DD DE DEI DHR DISCA DISCK EWBC FNSR FOSL FRT FRX GET GPS HOG HOLX HTZ ICE JCI JCP JDSU JLL JNPR JWN KFN KMX KSU LCAPA LNC LNT LUFK LULU MAC MCO MOS MRO MXIM NFLX NGG NVLS NVO OIS OMC OPEN PNRA POT PPO PPS PSA PWR PXD QCOM RAX RJF ROK ROP RVBD RYN SBAC SBGI SHLD SLM SNH STJ SVVS SWY SYK TEL TIF TNB TPX TRN TTMI TTWO UDR UNFI UNP UPS URBN UTX VMED VRSN WAT WERN WPI WSM WTW WY
Of this list, the following stocks are up >25% this month:
BIG FNSR JDSU SBGI
Of this list, the following stocks are up 15% this month:
BGC BIDU CDNS CMG JNPR LULU OPEN PPO RVBD SHLD TNB TTWO WSM
And by comparison, the SPY is up 4%.
So my plan is to watch these for higher lows on pullbacks and perhaps start some positions in these. Hopefully they will be less choppy. But who knows.
Tks Emmy. Cool linkfest.
ReplyDelete@MEH:hello there. Good to see you pop up sometimes.
@Rock:The right thing for Wael to do was quit or notify and take leave, and go be an activist.
ReplyDeleteBasing my remarks on the CBS article only, so I may be missing facts.
But, according to CBS, Ghonim had notified and taken leave, as per his quote:"But when everything became public, I talked with the company and they suggested that I take a leave of absence and I also suggested that to them and I think it was a good decision for that. Google has nothing to do with this."
@Rock. Further:Instead, he used his position and power to leverage his importance to assist the protesters. To say "my company was not involved" shows immaturity and ignorance. I would hope GOOG could find better prepared employees.
ReplyDeleteThe article makes no mention of Ghonim using his Google's edge in this conflict. Any references?
Only advantage that I can infer his job gave him would have to be from a technical standpoint.
Namely knowing which tools are most fit for a 2.0 revolution, e.g. an Android device among a pool of otherwise barely functional mobiles.
Finally, based on the meager official info that I'm aware of, I'd give Ghonim thumbs up (as to the numerous anonymous Egyptians) for actively contributing to overthrow the old crook's regime.
ReplyDeleteAs for officially neutral Google, I believe it ends up being a positive PR event, if anything.
@MEH,
ReplyDeleteUse wiki, dictionary. Meant in a complimentary way!
ICan
@WS(9:12)
ReplyDeleteAgree with you on Ghonim. I think the underlying issue is what responsibility humans have toward others less fortunate. Ghonim had everything going for him . He did not have to do this. He did not use this time for personal leisure, holidays. He said he was a workaholic. Read Guardian blog - his interview when he was released after 12 days of jail. I think it was last Sunday/Monday, I provided all the links.
He is a true hero/mentor to the younger generations.
If Google complains - then their China talk/human rights issue is full of bullsh*t!Right now positive PR forsure.
ICan
@WolfStreet:
ReplyDeletegoogle
"Thanks @Google for all the efforts you did in "searching" for me. Today "I'm feeling lucky" that I work for this company."
Date was Feb 9. Long after activism started.
@Anonymous
ReplyDeleteThe next thing, I think, we don't want to admit is that multibillion $ US companies can bring down governments in order to obtain a better position when the new regime gets established.
I wonder. Maybe China was just too big to pull off.
Or, maybe we don't want to admit that multibillion $ US companies can be aimed at governments.
That may be worse yet.
You don't suppose, do you? Naw. No way.
@Anonymous
ReplyDeleteI wonder why IBM's not been aimed. Yet.
@Rock(10:08),
ReplyDeleteIf that was directed at me:
"You don't suppose, do you? Naw. No way".
What do YOU mean?
ICan
Howdy Wolfie~
ReplyDeleteICan,
no luck, why not, just, spell it out? or, provide link?
Rock,
ReplyDeletedo you see any linkage between JDSU, and related, Up, and CSCO Down?
@MEH,
ReplyDeleteThere is no link. Everyday usuage.
ICan
Ican - I understood what you meant.
ReplyDeleteMEH - that's ironic no? You, asking someone to explain themselves? ;-)
@ICan:
ReplyDeleteI mean we are at war.
I believe I posted a comment on the blog before we came here that indicated we are at war.
I mean that powers, whether they be by the US Government or by other "elite" (to use a very bad and over-used and under-understood word) may use any force that may be available to them to gain advantage, including the use of multibillion $ corporations.
OK, I'm a crackpot. But did you see the posted article about the Egyptian affinity towards the US? Now that Google, a huge US concern essentially sponsored the communications that led to the overthrow of a disliked regime, how do you think that will affect the feelings towards the US? And, just suppose, that company (GOOG) gets some foothold in Egypt, maybe with Acer Android phones as being the new government's "standard", well, do you think Google might profit? Or do you think GOOG might profit by other means due to Wael's involvement?
I think so. That's why he did not take LOA, just a vacation, to go agitate. I think there was a lot more background than has hit the light of day yet.
He did not even take sabbatical. He was fully employed by GOOG.
Now that GOOG has helped topple Egypt, which direction will the cannon be aimed next? Do you think this is not being discussed throughout middle east governments?
And, I mean that it is possible that GOOG may have decided to try this kind of thing with China, but because of the presence of BIDU and the government's complete control over the routers, it didn't happen. Remember even after the Egypt net was shut down, well, SKYPE calls were still being made.
Great linkfest, Emmy
ReplyDelete@MEHoffer:
ReplyDeleteI think CSCO down is as a result of the dilution of the CSCO marketing message and focus. CSCO is a buyer of technology companies and integrating those companies into the CSCO family. This dilutes the marketing focus on their cash cow, because now they have a much broader coverage requirement.
As a result, CSCO's router sales are off.
CSCO has superior equipment, Having had hands-on on JNPR and CSCO gear, there is no doubt. But equipment does not make sales. Sales and Marketing make sales.
JDSU it test equipment. I used one of their TDR's. It worked well, as good as Tektronix's
I think that more TE will be needed with the rollout of 4G. So I'm thinking JDSU is up on that theory.
On that note, watch out for Qualcomm. Their 4G radio and antennae design is stellar. I would not invest in Broadcomm right now for sure.
BIG is up because their management said "we think we'll sell out", got the pop, then the management dumped. That's theory, if I have time I'll look into the insider sales info to verify.
Rock - Looks like Algeria might be next.
ReplyDeletehttp://english.aljazeera.net/video/africa/2011/02/201121221035975455.html
We'll see how far this one goes though. . .
Now this is interesting:
ReplyDeleteIs Mark Zuckerberg a Modern Day Moses?
Time’s Man of the Year. Now the new Moses? The guy who’s invisible connectivity community helped bring down the Pharaoh of Egypt. Mark Zuckerberg getting credit for Egypt’s revolution? We were stunned last night as we watched Anderson Cooper and Wolf Blitzer interview the de facto leader of Egypt’s revolution, the “Google Ganhdi,” Wael Ghonim.
During the course of the interview Wolf Blitzer asked Ghonim where the next revolution would take place. He answered, “Ask Facebook.”
Rock,
ReplyDeleteto try to be clearer, I was using "JDSU, and related" as a stand-in for 'optoelectronics'..
and, 'optoelectronics', and its adaptation into 'switch-ware'/'routers', as a potential threat to CSCO ..
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ICan,
that's weak, I was just asking what you meant by it..if you don't know, who would?
@MEH,
ReplyDeleteSometimes these things are just understood, no explanation necessary.
@MEH,
ReplyDeleteAnd why should I keep on answering to you? You're some superior being? OR YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT I THINK OF YOU?
ICan
MEH - Let it go please. Most of what you post makes no sense to any of us, stop giving ICan a hard time for something you do all the time.
ReplyDelete@Thor,
ReplyDeleteThe guy was trying to convince me to change my view on Gandhi on Andy's old blog few years back. There was a video posted on the net and Gandhi's own grandson basically said the same thing I was saying.
As if I don't know my own history.
Somepeople some how convince themselves of their SUPERIOR MIND OR SUPERIOR RACE!
INDIAN!
@Hoffer,
ReplyDeleteNO ENGLISH is NOT MY FIRST LANGUAGE!
INDIAN
ICan - It's all good, you don't have to explain yourself to anyone buddy, I knew exactly what you meant ;-)
ReplyDeleteAl Jazeera has a daily Algeria blog now. This feels a bit like the PIIGS doesn't it? Watching one fall, then moving on to the next in line.
re Thor:Most of what you post makes o sense to any of us Sorry mate, but you're not speaking for me at least. Though there are some posts from MEH that I don't understand, due in part to his heavy use of abbreviations, I enjoy reading his often original, and insightful, POVs.
ReplyDelete@MEH:re I Can quote :I was going to "mubarak" you. Clue: going Hoffer on you.
ReplyDeleteI'm assuming I Can was referring to an expression that people (well few people in fact) use when they don't understand what someone means. Eg:"Sorry, but it all sounds Hoffer-ish to me." :D
@Rock:thks for feedback. Well now Google has saved one of his employee, who's been reporting it on Tweeter. To me, that hardly qualifies as using his Google status to support his actions in Egypt.
ReplyDeleteHowever, your analysis of an hypothetical hidden economical move by Google makes sense to me. After all, we're witnessing the birth of a new nation, in which "wannabe new players" had better take their seats fast.
Also, I share your statement "I mean we are at war". The war has never stopped. Same war as the whole "Françafrique" stuff, which mechanics remain unofficial for the most part, but exposed enough in several works that it sounds plausible.
ReplyDeleteWhether we like it or not, each Western citizen is still enjoying his share of the loot, and shelled from physical conflicts.
For what it matters, note that I don't condemn the unofficial truth that communities still live by the "law of the jungle".
ReplyDeleteThough I don't know how our Western nations can move towards a moral path, without being crunched by the others, nor if it's possible at all, I despise this matter of facts.
Emmy
ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed the articles all of them, but besides Egipt the guy taken on Anonymous make my day, I found myself laughing alone intermitently during the day at the actions and savvy strategic thinking of Aaro Burr.See this represents human condition in a natural state:
narcissistic, ignorant and downright pathetic.Ha ha ha ha ha.
You have to read the e-mails that the guy keep sending to the Anonymous people to grasp my view about human talents.Excellent article man.
And the bronze age push me to go a little further on the route of symbolic behaviour in humans so just want to let you know that what you are doing in my view is really really good.Thank you and keep them coming.
Dan
Though there are some posts from MEH that I don't understand, due in part to his heavy use of abbreviations
ReplyDeleteThen treat ICan with the same level of respect we afford MEH with his many cryptic posts. No need to badger him into explaining something that wasn't directed at him in the first place right? ;-)
re Thor:I think having your name in an (not-yet official) expression may spur some questions. And I did not see disrespect in MEH comments, safe for past griefs as stated by I Can, which he is entitled to express as he likes.
ReplyDeleteFree speech! no big deal.:)
Night all. Off to Rock'n'Roll session. See you tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteWell, if you don't kill each other overnight, that is.
Wolfie - Fair enough, but I did see disrespect in MEH's comments, and obviously, so did the person who they were directed toward. Not trying to make a big deal here, just asking that we all treat each other with respect if possible. I respect that you don't see there was an issue here, but you must also respect that ICan and I (and perhaps a few others) might have.
ReplyDeleteNot at all trying to make a "big brother" thing out of it. But we should all feel comfortable with each other that we can have these kinds of conversations without everyone getting all agro, or feelings hurt. Right? Mr. Droid? ;-)
Rock
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly what I started thinking when I read that the guy is not a mere employee in Google but is in an important position.
Yes maybe his quest for freedom is unrelated with the company that he works for but perception, perception, perception.
If in a time span of 12-16 months you have Google trying to force freedom in China so it can be more convenient for the company business model (which of course China can say well is none of my business).
Then proposing and obtaining the Atlantic Wind Connection; something that is highly strategic for the country and transforming Google in a government contractor of the first order.
Yes having now a Google guy in the heart of the egiptian revolution can start arising suspicions that
1)From a company point of view they are trying to increased their business...
(Getting a new slogan use Google and be free...lol).
Which is perfectly fine, but as I mentioned about perception above:
2)Having the company turned now in a strategic contractor for the government could start developing the believe that like before US government use Mubarak now planned the Zuckerberg strategy materialized by Google on the ground in the region and with the same objective of having a manager for the "Empire" to care for the interests of US government in the region like nothing change.
Yes I can see that kind of ideas being pander in the arab world, because of Google.
Would have been cleaner if the revolution get started by a humiliated guy, unemployed with his produce confiscated instead of a regional manager of a U.S contractor like Google is now.
Good thoughts Rock.
Dan
Egypt's army dissolves parliament
ReplyDeleteMilitary rulers say they will remain in charge for six months until elections are held
Yes Thor I think you hit the nail with the big brotheer kind of thing.
ReplyDeleteWe are all adults and letting people made their case like I-Can and Mark did and just let it be.I-Can was very able to speak his mind.This is the first option, let it be.
The second one:
If (because the next revolution that you are planning in Algeria didn't started yet) you have "idle stamina" and decided to participate in the argument generated among I-Can and Hoffer, be my guest is ok too, yes it's ok.
That's why I was very intent in an open space withouth a big brother or boss.
The beauty of this being a place that doesn't belong to anyone but all of the regular posters, makes your "Most of what you post..for any of us" be seen as if you really speak for all of us, and made Wolfie uneasy.
So my curiosity is exclusively related with the issue that made Wolfie respond to you, not with the conflict this could be for another time.
Do you really think that you are talking for all of us?In a big brother kind of way?
Even though everybody knows the response, I want it in writing here not to enlighten people but just to restrain your "algerian impulses" till the next flare up and keep our place with diversity of opinions.
Because if you put it in writing is going to last it's effects for a while at least.
And try to avoid your lone ranger impulses scare hordes of potential first time posters that can think why bother if one speaks in the name of everybody here.
Let diversity be and participate as much as you want but in your own name.
Otherwise maybe we are fomenting a new Mubarak here. :)
Dan
Dan - Why are you adding your voice to this? Listen buddy, the conversation was originally between ICan and I. He was speaking to me, I understood what he was saying. MEH inserted himself into the conversation and asked ICan to explain himself. Ican declined. At that point the conversation should have been over.
ReplyDeleteMEH, who, as you know, has a habit of posting things that many of us do not understand. We have always been respectful to MEH with his "out there" posts. We never badger him on the topics, or give him shit because some of them do not make sense. Now, had this been the FIRST time MEH called someone out for something that he himself does, I'd have kept my mouth shut. However, this was not the first time MEH has done that. Not two months ago he did the very same thing to Denise. So, it's a habit and clearly it offends more than just me here.
Now here you are, inserting yourself into a situation that is not about you. Jesus, for someone who doesn't like these conflicts you sure do spend a lot of time doing your part to escalate them.
And Dastro - if you want a place that's "open" and people can say absolutely anything they want, no matter how offensive or insulting it might be then this is not the place for you. If I were interested in that I'd be spending my time at ZH.
ReplyDeleteAnd I love how we're talking about 'free speech' but in essence what you're doing is talking about everyone's right to free speech except mine right?
ReplyDeleteFree speech doesn't stop at someone making a statement you know, it includes reactions TO said statement. We're all entitled to our opinions here folks, including me.
ReplyDelete@Thor,
ReplyDeleteLet it go. It's ok with me. Thanks for your support.
ICan
Just keeping the focus here.I can or cannot talk about the flare at another time.But not now.
ReplyDeleteWhat I wanted to know is regarding Wolfie reaction
Do you think that you speak for all of us?
(Don't try to trick me again, or I'll asked again you...you).
Dan
ICan - I know, it's just offensive is all. I don't like the double standard.
ReplyDeleteDan - No, I do not think I speak for all of you - pardon me for thinking you would be on the side of treating other people with respect.
ReplyDeleteDan - I guess I'm just confused. Seriously, no, I don't think I speak for all of you. If that bothers you then I apologize. No, we are not of one mind.
ReplyDeleteI am, however, perplexed. What is it specifically in all of this that you take issue with? That I said something that implied I was speaking for all of us? That's what you took issue with? Seriously?
wow, ICan, I was just curious as to what you meant..
ReplyDeletewasn't trying to convey anything else.
anyway, as far as 'cryptic' posts, of mine, any of y'all should feel free to ask me about them..many times I post things when I'm trying, myself, to understand them -- put them out 'in the Marketplace' to learn others' POV (point of view)..stimulate thought/discussion around them..
but, past that, Wolfie, above, understood why I asking ICan..but, if he doesn't wanmt to say, really, NBD (no big deal) ..
MEH - Fair enough.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone seen the Hyundai Sheeple commercial?
ReplyDeletePretty funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9rmIYwr1vw
Thor said
ReplyDeleteDan- No, I do not think I speak for all of you
"...the sound of clapping and an ovation in the background starts overwhelming emotions.
People chanting jumping and hugging each other tears rolling through many many cheeks.
He did it!!, he did it!! he said the words...is one of us ,no is not going to be a Mubarak!!"
Thor, dude, I enjoy your posts greatly,I really do and you have your way to say things I never defended I-Can, Hoffer or even Wolfie for that matter.
Free speech at least to my uneducated opinion means that people state their opinions.You don't have any problem stating your opinions we all know that. :)
You can jump in as many flares you want,nobody is preventing you for doing that or persecuting you at all.Go fight be my guest.
You can defend or attack as you please.
If someone speaks in everybodies name has to be authorized, and silence in the rest makes people accept your opinion tacitly as the voice of all, don't know, maybe that made Wolfie react.
Compare the situation with one annoying thing about the Bush administration.
The tactic of being with us or against us.
Why annoting?
It takes away from people the chance of express their views and people in a free society don't like that.This is when free speech dies.
I never thought for a second that I can prevent you for speaking your mind. :)
When someone speaks for all force people to participate even when they don't want to just to tell you "Hey speak for yourself not for me".
That doesn't mean that they are on the other side, (you shouldn't use that argument as a defense, confounding the opponent because is very weak).
It just means that you are not authorized to speak for everybody when you fight.Clear now?
Dan
Dan - Dude, Jesus, I misspoke ok. This is insanity, why are you trying to make this into something it's not?
ReplyDeleteRelax - no one speaks for you, ok? That's a given, it's not even worth stating.
If someone speaks in everybodies name has to be authorized, and silence in the rest makes people accept your opinion tacitly
No it doesn't, not at all. Silence means nothing other than silence. When you try to ascribe meaning to silence, all you are doing is inserting your own opinions and emotions into the equation.
You keep going on about what was basically my misspeaking, shouldn't have used those words. If this situation has proven one thing Dan, it's that we are most definitely not of the same mind as a group, not by a long shot. I wouldn't have thought that needed to be said out loud, but apparently it does.
So, again, in print. I do not believe that I speak for everyone.
Good? ;-)
Thor,
ReplyDeletethat Hyundai commercial is f****** Great!
really, one of the few commercials, in a long time, that had me laughing..
had to rewind it, when I saw it during the SB, to see it again--and point it out..
You don't have to alienate Wolfie to defend I-Can.
ReplyDeleteWolfie doesn't think that you spoke for him and he told you.Instead of just back up say sorry and keep your fight you just attacked Wolfie too for saying something with common sense (don't speak for him or anyone in your flares).
Doesn't mean that we belong to another place.
This is our place you don't own the space.That's all.
Dan
Dan
Meh - I love that they picked up on the Sheeple! That was so hilarious!!
ReplyDeleteDan,
ReplyDeleteGive it a rest. Thor apologized for misspeaking. Enough.
Dan - Can we give this a rest for tonight please? I don't think I own the space. Your continued insistence that this is about something that it is not is, I think, offensive. You don't know me or my intentions so please do not try to ascribe intent where there is none.
ReplyDeleteThor said
ReplyDelete"...Dan - Dude, Jesus, I misspoke ok. This is insanity, why are you trying to make this into something it's not?"
If someone misspoke says sorry dude and that's all.
But you attack Wolfie to defend I-Can it was very clear.
If you mispoke you don't attack instead you apologize or shut up.And you didn't that you just attack Wolfie for not backing you or remain silent.
Dss
ReplyDeleteIf someone misspoke don't attack the other guy.
Dan
Dan,
ReplyDeleteYou are making a mountain out of a molehill; everyone but you has moved on. You made your point about twenty times. Give it a rest.
Dan - What's going on here with you tonight buddy? Look at this situation objectively for a second will you? As far as the principle players, Ican, Meh, myself, we're all fine. We all spoke our peace and have clearly moved on. Wolfie inserted himself into a situation he had no involvement with whatsoever, he spoke his piece, and I addressed him. You, another person who has nothing at all to do with this situation, have now decided to make it about something completely different. Now, it's not longer about treating people with respect, which, once again, is already cleared up. No, now we're talking about free speech, and attacking people.
ReplyDeleteWhy?
What's going on?
I apologized, but that's not enough, why? Why is that not enough for you Dan?
Wolfie inserted as you inserted
ReplyDeleteDan
Well so much for our group mind - there go my damn master plans of world domination.
ReplyDeleteDan,
ReplyDeleteYou notice that Wolfie has left the building? Not participating?
Funny that you think that Thor should mind his own business and not speak for anyone but you are there speaking for Wolfie.
Is there a full moon tonight?
Everyone, please mind your own business.
Tomorrow is another day.
Hah - well you can say one thing about us I think - even when we disagree, we're a polite bunch of people ;-)
ReplyDeleteNOT that I'm speaking for everyone!!
ReplyDeleteI'm sure some folks are not polite at all! :-P
Of course we are really polite and that fact brings more contrast to the opinions, which is really good in my view.
ReplyDeleteWell that's one of the reason I don't fight...is because I...ca...not control...myself. Start foaming my mouth and keep going and going for 17 hours at the least.Lol.
No seriously, I can be wery wery dense and focused so everybody is going to go insane.
It's your plan already decided after Algeria?
Dan
@MEHoffer
ReplyDeleteSorry I didn't understand.
CSCO has large company infrastructure established. For example CSCO used themselves as a bank to loan money to companies to buy CSCO's gear, booked the revenue that quarter. That takes big bankroll, and it's doubtful without further investigating balance sheets that someone smaller, like fiber optics companies, can accomplish that.
As Dss has pointed out) CSCO uses their size to manage their earnings statements. I'm thinking the reason their bookings are off is it may be payback time for some of the loans, and sales are down, because as I said before, marketing has lost focus.
And maybe because with the expansions, they lost the ability to calculate their market share for each of the factions. You may know that as GOOG buys companies, typically they keep the key engineering staffs and consolidate Marketing and Sales. A recipe for short term success, and long term failure, IMHO.
@Dastro
ReplyDeleteGoogle: On the side of freedom.
I love it. You should send it to them. Especially if you can give it an anti-apple twist.
@Wolfstreet
ReplyDeleteI agree.
@Thor:
Thanks for the tip. I wasn't ready for Egypt, but this time, to be sure I will short Algerian bonds and long oil. I think Algeria makes about 2% of the world's oil? Something like that.
I love Dss' quip "you'll read it in the news". How accurate can anything be?
Rock said
ReplyDelete"...Google: On the side of freedom".
I would love that Rock but is your baby, ever thought about trademark it?
Dan
Two Guys are walking down the street, the first one walks into a bar, the second one ducks.
ReplyDeleteWhy did the blond climb the chain link fence?
To see what was on the other side.
Why did the kindergarten cross the play ground?
to get to the other slide.
Mangy Mutt
Touché
ReplyDeleteLove it Mutt
ReplyDeleteI got the first two, uau! isn't it something or what?
Or what.
Now, when you say in the 3rd one to get to the other slide, you mean slide that you put in a proyector?
Lots of synaptic activity but nowhere near.
I remember asking a girlfriend of mine that her english was impeccable why she decided to take a course of humor in English.
And she told me because is the last thing that you are able to get from a second language.
Thank you Mutt bring more.
Dan
If you dudes aren't careful, I'll start telling my Eisenhower era jokes again.
ReplyDeleteBut don't worry, Mutt, about your blond jokes. I don't think we had blonds until Kennedy made Marilyn. Famous.
ReplyDelete@Dan:thanks Pal. No worry though.
ReplyDeleteJust wanted to show MEH some support. In the end, I believe nobody's been hurt (I've not at least), all clean. Topic closed for me.:)