We saw the unemployment numbers improve pretty dramatically on Friday. We all know the dramatic improvement was due to a lot of people dropping off the edge of unemployment reports: that is, they are no longer counted, and may not be looking.
As we pointed out earlier, during Mr. Obaba’s reign, the use of food stamps has increased by 33%, or more. Mr Newt said that it was the biggest increase ever under one president, but he was wrong. It was the second biggest (Bush’s was bigger), but when the Jan numbers come out, Mr. Newt may be right. In any case, for leaders of our country to let this happen is inexcusable.
I have heard many many talking heads on Bloomberg say that we won’t improve the economy until we let the housing sector recover. Many say just let the bottom fall out and recover naturally, some say support it to keep our spirits up and confidence high to support spending.
You can’t spend what you don’t have. And aren’t making. And we all talk about the discrepancy between the haves, and have-nots, and it’s getting bigger, and worse. Even to the point where billionaires say “I volunteer to pay more taxes” which is of course meaningless in the long term, without spending cuts. “you can’t spend what you don’t have” should apply to the US Government, but as we see, it doesn’t.
So what is all this ramble about? It’s about housing, and the recovery as applied to improvements in the housing market.
Prices have come down, but as the blue collar workers lose ground, they still can’t afford to buy houses. Many white collar workers have houses, maybe underwater, but do possess them. As Mannwich’s article pointed out, many feel caught at higher interest rates since banks won’t let them refinance. We all know banks are mostly all insolvent if the government decided to make them mark their assets to market value. So the banks need this high interest rate revenue. The question is, what do banks do with the foreclosures, which are a drain on their revenues from their securities?
The answer was given to us Thursday. There are some private equity firms negotiating with Fannie and Freddie to take the troubled properties off their hands and fix them up and offer them as rental properties (since rentals are on the rise).
This will be a disaster for the housing market. Here’s why: I have looked at a bunch of repos here in the bay area, They are all dumps, where anyone with 600K-1KK price range would not want to live. And even after dumping 100K in upgrades into the property, you still end up with a hacked-up layout, a fixed-up camp. A dump. How will this hurt the housing market?
Fannie and Freddie will sell the securitized properties to the private equity firms for substantially less than their value. You and I can’t invest in this, because we can’t buy an entire security, we could only buy one or two of the components. So we won’t be allowed to participate. Anyway, we can’t afford to buy the property paying 4.25% mortgage, + property tax, + lost revenue on the down payment even with a 90% rental rate, because even at that rate, we will not have a positive yield, and it may be years and years before we can get our money out. What will happen when the PE firms buy is that the taxpayer will pay for the Fannie and Freddie losses (either directly or through AIG), and the PE firms will own the dumps.
The dumps aren’t necessarily concentrated. If they are, they will be slightly repaired and offered to the Blue Collar workers (who are dropping out of the jobs market, remember), and will ultimately likely become ghettos. If they are not concentrated, they are scattered throughout YOUR neighborhoods. And the blue collar workders will be moving in. Next door to you.
Unintended consequences could be ghettos (as I said earlier), lower property-tax income for towns, poorer schools, higher crime (I mean, even in my white-collar neighborhood, my Christmas lights were stolen), and an even brighter and more focused spotlight on the have-have not disparity.. Most of the new building permits are for multi-family dwellings, and this effort to provide low-cost rental property will stop those permits for sure.
Bottom line, your property values will go down, and your tax rates will go up. And, of course, we’ll all have to pay for the losses taken by Fannie and Freddie, and we will give all that money to the PE firms.
Sounds like a deal.
This, I think, is your future. Luckily, it is not Rock’s future, but I weep for my children, and for you. I am desperately sorry I helped bring this about.
I will put up a trading post for tomorrow morning, after the game. Just for you guys that can't live without seeing a chart.
ReplyDeleteRock - Great post! Reading through it now. About the jobs number, are you talking about the 1.2 million taken off the employment roles? I thought that that was a change in population control from the census?
ReplyDeleteThe Labor Force Participation Rate declined to 63.7% in January (blue line). However the decline was related to the change in population control, and not people leaving the work force.
The Employment-Population ratio was unchanged at 58.5% in January (black line). This would have increased 0.3 with the change in population control.
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2012/02/summary-for-week-ending-february-3rd.html
Go Pats!
ReplyDeleteJust as in trading, I side with the underdog!
Also, and I know this might be a minority opinion, I do not believe this is all, or even mostly, about spending. If we finish ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, cut all farm and oil subsidies, and return to the tax structure we had during the 90's, many of our deficit problems improve substantially. Corporate tax revenues are lower than they have been since 1972. I'm not saying we shouldn't cut spending (we should) it's just that we have a number of real world examples over the last three years on what cutting government spending during a recession does to an economy (see Greece, Spain, Ireland, UK, etc).
ReplyDeleteThat's my two cents at least :-)
Oooh, is it Superbowl time? Home run!! :-P
ReplyDelete@Thor:
ReplyDeleteFrom your link:
"Unfortunately there are still 12.8 million Americans unemployed, and 5.5 million who have been unemployed for more than 6 months. Those are very grim unemployment numbers."
Food stamp data shows an increase of 14 million +. There are currently 43KK on the dole. Do the math. Make an assumption of how many of the 14KK are in the 12.8KK, or are not. As you will find out, after you don't find a job for awhile, you fall off the end of the trackable numbers. So the 12KK are simply the ones we can track. It's likely there are another 5.5KK that have fallen out of the time bounds, since we already know those are jobless for 6 months. The number could be more like 15KK because that's the increase in food stamp households.
@Thor:
ReplyDeleteI think spending cuts are necessary. However policy changes to force investment in America are also necessary, and haven't even been mentioned. By our leaders.
They talk about a tax break to let corporations bring profits home, but as we see, profits are hoarded and not invested.
Without that caveat added, they might as well leave the profits in the Canaan Islands.
Rock - agree on both points. The unemployment numbers are grim, the long term consequences of the long term unemployed will be with us for a long long time.
ReplyDeleteNPR recently did a piece on manufacturing in America, how the manufacturing jobs that are left are very high end, we still build stuff here in the states, it's just that a lot of what we build are machines that makes things, which we in turn sell to the rest of the world (China included). The low end, low skill manufacturing jobs are all mostly gone and never coming back.
Also, the piece had some stats on "buy America", apparently study after study shows that premise to be false, when given a choice, American consumers will always go with cheaper, over "Made in The USA"
@Thor:
ReplyDeleteI agree, but houses are (must be) made in America. If we allow the PE firms to stop the new building permits with their offer of cheap rental single-family houses, then we've done a great dis-service to America.
I think if the talking heads are right, we need the housing market to recover in order to stimulate the economy sufficiently, then we need to figure out how to keep these depressed properties off the cheap rental market.
What's booming now are multi-family units. Hollywood is about to be awash in some pretty big projects. I guess no one can afford to live in houses anymore.
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ReplyDelete@Thor:
ReplyDeleteYour 9:33
Maybe so. But I'd like to see some proposal to get rid of the toxic properties without dumping low-cost rentals on the rental market.
I would propose that investors who want to extend themselves get a LOWER interest rate than owner occupied, to make the yields positive. If freddie and fanny are going to dump properties onto big PE firms, why don't they support the small investors?
@Thor:
ReplyDeleteSee
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/02/a-few-thoughts-on-the-employment-situation/
He too is saying the unemployment numbers aren't accurate, but the increases in jobs numbers are.
I think we need a better method of determining unemployment other than the state and local reports of who's looking and who is eligible to collect the insurance.
I guess the last question is: how many of the created jobs are because openings have been filled from those already employed? In order to have more accurate "job creation" numbers, you need to subtract "jobs terminated" numbers. The "jobs created" numbers could simply be a volatility index and basically meaningless.
Ah, here is some info, from the jobs report:
ReplyDelete"In January, 2.8 million persons were marginally attached to the labor
force, essentially unchanged from a year earlier. (The data are not
seasonally adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force,
wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime
in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because
they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey.
(See table A-16.)"
So this may be the percentage of the 14Million food stamp increases that have fallen off the edge of the reporting system.
It's hard to determine the truth, because each view is biased from some viewpoint. I mean, I can't figure out why some unemployed aren't considered unemployed.